Comments on: Ball Flight Laws #3 – Spin https://pluggedingolf.com/ball-flight-laws-3-spin/ Get plugged in... Thu, 04 Jul 2024 19:50:49 +0000 hourly 1 By: Matt Saternus https://pluggedingolf.com/ball-flight-laws-3-spin/#comment-325059 Thu, 04 Jul 2024 19:50:49 +0000 https://pluggedingolf.com/?p=3990#comment-325059 In reply to Bertrand.

Bertrand,

Yes, that’s correct. There are a variety of factors in play, but some players will generate more spin with a 50 than a 56 or 60.

Best,

Matt

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By: Bertrand https://pluggedingolf.com/ball-flight-laws-3-spin/#comment-325035 Wed, 03 Jul 2024 19:30:15 +0000 https://pluggedingolf.com/?p=3990#comment-325035 Bonjour,
Merci pour toutes ces informations.
Si je comprends bien il est préférable d’utiliser le pitching wedge ou le gap wedge plutôt qu’un wedge à 56 ou 60 degrés pour obtenir du spin sur un coup lobé ?
Merci pour vos éclaircissements.
Bertrand

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By: Matt Saternus https://pluggedingolf.com/ball-flight-laws-3-spin/#comment-307381 Thu, 05 Aug 2021 13:09:47 +0000 https://pluggedingolf.com/?p=3990#comment-307381 In reply to Josh.

Josh,

Reducing loft will reduce spin, all else equal, but if we’re talking about wedge shots, we’re starting from a place of very high spin so “reduced spin” can still be enough. I would not advise players to actively try to hit “more down” to add spin as I think it will typically hurt their contact quality. High quality contact is the most underrated factor in spinning wedges and irons.

Best,

Matt

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By: Josh https://pluggedingolf.com/ball-flight-laws-3-spin/#comment-307372 Thu, 05 Aug 2021 00:46:51 +0000 https://pluggedingolf.com/?p=3990#comment-307372 Thanks for the article.

Is there a way to spin sand and lob wedges?? I see the pros doing this (which I realize are highly skilled haha). Does that mean that they hit controlled PW or 9 iron to reduce the spin? This is something I have been working on- “flighting” my high lofted irons (9,PW, GW) ONLY to play better in wind. I don’t often swing full with a sand wedge or Lob wedge.

Just trying to learn more about spin! I always thought de-lofting my wedges would create more spin. I assume I still need a fairly downward strike to create spin?

Thanks!!

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By: Bob in DE https://pluggedingolf.com/ball-flight-laws-3-spin/#comment-307348 Sat, 31 Jul 2021 01:37:31 +0000 https://pluggedingolf.com/?p=3990#comment-307348 In reply to Matt Saternus.

Matt, thank you for your response.
Bob

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By: Matt Saternus https://pluggedingolf.com/ball-flight-laws-3-spin/#comment-307332 Thu, 29 Jul 2021 17:03:37 +0000 https://pluggedingolf.com/?p=3990#comment-307332 In reply to Bob in DE.

Bob,

I believe that you’re right. If all else is completely equal, draws and fades should go the same distance. However, in practice, draws typically have less spin and slightly higher ball speed as a result of lower effective loft so they may fly farther and will run farther. Also, there was likely a bigger disparity in draws and fades when the ball spun more, and since golf commentating is roughly 30 years behind the times, they’re still stuck on that.

Best,

Matt

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By: Bob in DE https://pluggedingolf.com/ball-flight-laws-3-spin/#comment-307329 Thu, 29 Jul 2021 15:17:08 +0000 https://pluggedingolf.com/?p=3990#comment-307329 Hi Matt,
I often hear announcers and others say that a draw will go farther than a fade. I don’t understand how this could be. I understand that right spin makes the ball go right and left spin goes left back spin goes up and top spin goes down. So if you had mirror images of spin and hit on mirror paths, one would draw and one would fade. From all of the research I’ve read, the only thing that makes sense is that with a draw, the golfer may have had better or more efficient ball contact than with a fade. With all factors being equal (impact point on face of club, loft, direction, spins, etc.) a fade or draw should go the same distance, right?

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By: Ben Rabbers https://pluggedingolf.com/ball-flight-laws-3-spin/#comment-304340 Sat, 05 Jun 2021 20:03:13 +0000 https://pluggedingolf.com/?p=3990#comment-304340 Thank you for creating this content. and for your ‘matter-of-fact” style.

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By: Matt Saternus https://pluggedingolf.com/ball-flight-laws-3-spin/#comment-111708 Fri, 02 Nov 2018 09:48:18 +0000 https://pluggedingolf.com/?p=3990#comment-111708 In reply to James Ye.

James,

Good question. I don’t have a chart, but I can relay that I’ve never heard a fitter search for anything north of 2,500 RPM. That kind of spin could be useful for a much slower swinger, but I think the majority of golfers are pretty well-served in that 2,000-2,500 range. There does exist some discrepancy among fitters as to how low they like to go at moderate speeds – some seek that 17*/1700 combo even around 90 MPH.

It’s also worth mentioning that, for the handicap golfer, there’s a certain insanity to getting really wrapped up in spin rates (I know from firsthand experience). The reason I say that is that spin rates vary dramatically depending on strike quality. I am NEVER against club fitting, but a 15-handicap player has more to gain from improving their strike quality than worrying about the difference between 1,800 RPM and 2,000 RPM on their rare perfect swing.

Best,

Matt

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By: James Ye https://pluggedingolf.com/ball-flight-laws-3-spin/#comment-111703 Fri, 02 Nov 2018 09:38:46 +0000 https://pluggedingolf.com/?p=3990#comment-111703 Hi Matt,
Nice explanation on the function of spin. For the pros, we know ideal spin for drivers is around 1,800~2,000 rpm (based on CHS of >110mph). As you mentioned, for amateurs will slower CHS, more spin is required. Do you have a matrix of CHS & Spin (eg. 90mph=2,300rpm) and assuming Launch is optimal at 14~16 deg that will produce the maximum carry and ideal descent angle?

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